Tree of Knowledge display

Please join members of the Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia (FSGP) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 10:00 AM to help install and decorate FSGP’s 2007 winter display:

The Tree of Knowledge

The Tree of Knowledge will be placed on the lawn of the Chester County Courthouse located at the corners of High and Market Streets, West Chester, PA 19380.

 

If you are unable to work on the display during the day, please plan to celebrate the spotlighting and opening ceremonies at 5:00 PM at the same location mentioned above. After the ceremony, participants are encouraged to dine together and continue celebrating this historical event. Please call if you have any questions:

 

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I saw you on Fox News this morning. I think the other people in the interview were a little rude. They tried to make it seem as Atheists were trying to steal the show, and also copy the 'Christmas tree'. Did you know that Jews in Russia also set up fir trees at Christmas time?

From a site: "The Christmas tree is derived from several solstice traditions. The Romans decked their halls with garlands of laurel and placed candles in live trees to decorate for the celebration of Saturnalia. In Scandinavia, they hung apples from evergreen trees at the winder solstice to remind themselves that spring and summer will come again. The evergreen tree was the special plant of their sun god, Baldor.

The practice of exchanging gifts at a winter celebration is also pre-Christian and is from the Roman Saturnalia. They would exchange good-luck gifts called Stenae (lucky fruits). They also would have a big feast just like we do today.

Mistletoe is from an ancient Druid custom at the winter solstice. Mistletoe was considered a divine plant and it symbolized love and peace. The tradition of kissing under the mistletoe is Druid in origin." There is more: http://www.zenzibar.com/articles/christmas.asp

So they really copied the tree too. They should remember that Christmas was once illegal, as was Christianity until the 4th century, and to have it legalized they had include a certain number of pagan holidays (celebrated by Constantine, a Pagan).

Anyway someone should tell them that this time of year is a general holiday season with several religions celebrating, and doesn't exclusively belong to Christians.

In fact Atheists should have a big holiday right about now to celebrate our freedom from having to believe in God, as well as to decide what we believe and how we think.

So if you read this far, thanks for letting me express myself here. By the way there are a lot of fringe Atheists out there too. I am embarrassed sometimes by how we are perceived and even represented by other religions as well as other Atheists. I wanted to thank you for staying so well composed. You were not allowed much time to respond, and I may not agree with you on every point - but I want you to know that you impressed me as the most composed and polite person on that show.

Happy Holiday!

Jon Kasso
New York

PS My mother, her parents, their siblings, my son and I are are all Atheists. My mother is one of the most virtuous and honest people I know. She is now 85 and she is as dedicated as ever. At least we Atheists do not have to deal with the convoluted logic implicit in faith based reasoning that people of legacy religions have to. I am free of that...Cheers!

PS (on another subject I feel someone should respond to the Pope's encyclical as it is directed at Atheism):
Last week, the Pope's encyclical betrayed a sense of desperation as more and more people begin shed the dead skin of their old religions. From the NY Times Nov 30th:
"But the attempt to banish God, he wrote, “has led to the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice,” whether through Marxist revolution or the science that produced the atomic bomb.

“To protest against God in the name of justice is not helpful,” the 80-year-old pope wrote in the encyclical, the highest papal teaching. “A world without God is a world without hope. Only God can create justice. And faith gives us the certainty that he does so.”

I guess he forgot the cruelty enforced by the Catholic Church, the Knights of the Templar, the Crusades? The Catholic church invented the term "Third Degree Torture" which means, death by pain, in devising ways to convert Jews. Then he takes a jab at science. Does he know that science also created medical cures, and the bullet proof glass he drives around in? Why is he trying to discredit Science as originating with 'God banishers'? And I might ask, 'who is protesting against God?'. If Atheists don't believe he exists, why would we protest against him? To me God is as much a non issue as the giant woman named 'goga' who we all know lives on the dark side of the moon (LOL). Nice try Mr. Pope. And he makes a statement 'Only God can create justice'. That is a false teaching since there is no 'God', though it may be what he believes. He also implies that faith will give us certainty. If I reason on faith that the Tooth Fairy exists, then I will be certain so? I think this kind of faith based reason could lead to problems. I prefer fact based reasoning.

This alleged 'high teaching' is so loaded with false premises and conclusions, I had to take it apart. I would not want him directing traffic at any intersection as he probably could not understand red from green, stop from go, right from left etc..after all what if he suddenly believes that red is green?

I am so glad I am not Catholic and subject to that kind of total nonsense!

And one last comment: A world where people are moving away from Theism, is truly a world full of hope.

PS (on another subject I feel someone should respond to the Pope's encyclical as it is directed at Atheism):

Last week, the Pope's encyclical betrayed a sense of desperation as more and more people begin shed the dead skin of their old religions. From the NY Times Nov 30th:
"But the attempt to banish God, he wrote, “has led to the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice,” whether through Marxist revolution or the science that produced the atomic bomb.

Book Titles?

I ran into mention of your Tree of Knowledge display on a bulletin board earlier today, and was wondering if you could share a complete list of the book titles in the Tree of Knowledge display.

As ever, Jesse

We'll have a list on this site soon, but for now you can go here:

http://www.fsgp.org/tree-of-knowledge/

I saw your interviews on Fox, and think you presented your argument very well, that which you were able to get across with the interruptions from the priest. I was impressed by the calm manner in which you politely put your case, quite a contrast to that of the priest, but then what should we expect. Keep up the good work. Unfortunately with the prevailing climate in the States today you have your work cut out.

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I was impressed by the calm manner in which you politely put your case, quite a contrast to that of the priest, but then what should we expect. Keep up the good work. Unfortunately with the prevailing climate in the States today you have your work cut out.

I ran into mention of your Tree of Knowledge display on a bulletin board earlier today, and was wondering if you could share a complete list of the book titles in the Tree of Knowledge display

Fox, and think you presented your argument very well, that which you were able to get across with the interruptions from the priest. I was impressed by the calm manner in which you politely put your case, quite a contrast to that of the priest, but then what should we expect. Keep up the good work. Unfortunately with the prevailing climate in the States today you have your work cut out.

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